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121#
发表于 2004-9-23 16:41:24 | 只看该作者
原来是"假"的啊!     看得我直激动(白激动了不是)

不过我真的很喜欢这篇
122#
发表于 2004-9-23 22:34:55 | 只看该作者
谢谢上面的鼓励:  ),我还是喜欢严谨的英语文章,大家都来努力吧,让其他人都能了解到真实的开花。
123#
 楼主| 发表于 2004-9-24 10:13:58 | 只看该作者
说到严谨的文,有一篇对多伦多电影节的总结文章不错,因为没时间,所以没翻译。文章说电影节给第一次拍摄剧情长片的年青导演FLOWERS上了很好的一课,其中肯定了FLOWERS的天分和影片展示的激情。但非常客观的指出,多伦多电影节是一个更市场化的电影节,如果HAVEN想推广得更好,卖得成功,必须要修改。第一,做为刚走出学院的年青人,不可避免的片中带有过多的技巧性东西,镜头的运用过于跳(时间上的闪回),让人在时间上理解有误,第二,线索多,有些情节的不必要的,如两个商人,显得片子过长。第三,片子最大的卖点是OB,但他只是其中的一点,剧中有一半时间和他没关系。文中指出,年青导演要走向市场,有时必须妥协。电影节上有DVD商对此片很有兴趣,要卖肯定会卖好,但制片和导演无疑更有野心,希望将此片推向大银幕,(所有人都认为此片是好片,但目前状态下不完美,但能做得更好,如果卖DVD有些可惜)FLOWERS坚持拿回修改,可能还会补拍。作者认为作为独立电影,可能更好的舞台在明年1月份的圣丹斯独立电影节。(相比之下多伦多要更商业)
贴上原文,大家看一下。
THE BIG PICTURE
A young director gets an education
USC film school grad Frank E. Flowers debuts his first film "Haven" at the Toronto International Film Festival.
By Patrick Goldstein, Times Staff Writer

TORONTO ?Frank E. Flowers had his Hollywood bar mitzvah at the Toronto International Film Festival, which ended its 10-day run Sunday. "People kept saying that showing my movie here would affect the rest of my life," the self-possessed 25-year-old USC film school graduate told me just hours before his first feature film, "Haven," debuted at the Elgin Theater. "Everyone kept saying, 'Don't [mess] up, don't drink too much, don't say the wrong thing.' "

Like the Sundance Film Festival in the winter and the Cannes Film Festival in the spring, Toronto has become one of the pivotal launching pads for selling a film to one of the dozens of indie film companies and studio specialty divisions that flock to the festival each year, looking for the new "Amores Perros" or "Napoleon Dynamite." The debut of "Haven," which happens to costar "Lord of the Rings" heartthrob Orlando Bloom, was easily the most tumultuous scene of the festival. Long before the film started, the 1,300-seat theater was surrounded by hordes of hysterical teenage girls, screaming anytime anyone remotely resembling Bloom emerged from a limousine.

When Bloom finally arrived, Beatlemania-style bedlam ensued. After I got to my seat, I found myself next to two local girls, armed with a digital camera, who had paid a scalper $55 for a pair of tickets to the movie. I asked Sacha Roman, a 20-year-old student at the University of Toronto, why she was such a big Bloom fan. She sighed. "Just look at him!" The Elgin wasn't packed just with Bloom groupies. As I wandered around the theater, I ran into top executives from Focus Films, Fox Searchlight and Warner Independent, many strategically perched on an aisle seat, making it easier to slip out of the theater, either to phone in an early bid or make a quick getaway, depending on how the film played.

"Haven" is a classic study in the unpredictable nature of festival buying mania. In the days before its Sept. 11 debut screening, it was one of the top films on every acquisition executive's list. A romantic thriller set in the Cayman Islands, the movie was bankrolled by Bob Yari, a former real estate magnate who has emerged as a major indie film financier. "Haven," which cost roughly $5 million to make, is one of the first projects from El Camino Pictures, a Yari-backed company formed in partnership with William Morris Independent's Cassian Elwes and Rena Ronson. (Flowers is a client at the Morris agency, which signed him out of college.)

In fact, the film owes its very existence to the allure of film festivals. When Flowers, a Cayman Islands native, took his short film, "Swallow," to Sundance in 2003, he was dazzled by several small films he saw there, in particular "Whale Rider" and "Raising Victor Vargas," which starred Victor Rasuk, who Flowers cast as a fast-talking Cayman hustler in "Haven." "After seeing how those movies told stories about a specific culture, I thought, 'I could do that too,' " he explains. "I could go to the islands ?my islands ?and tell a story that's my own."

Like so many gifted young directors, Flowers has an infectious enthusiasm ?he's as good a salesman as he is filmmaker. After he wrote "Haven," he showed the script to then-Dimension executive Robbie Brenner. She liked it so much that she quit her job to produce the film. Aleen Keshishian, Bloom's manager at the Firm, was so taken by the script that when Bloom was in her office, she made him watch Flowers' short.

Bloom wanted to play the role of a lovelorn young dock worker, which had been written for a teenage black Cayman Islander. So Flowers rewrote 70 pages of the script, transforming the dock worker into a 25-year old Brit whom Bloom could play. Even before Bloom signed on, Flowers got a commitment from Bill Paxton to play a shady businessman who flees to the islands from Miami with his pot-smoking teenage daughter and $1 million in cash. "Bill was really cool," Flowers said. "After he read the script, he met me in a hotel, shook my hand and said, 'I'm going to do your movie, so let'stalk about some other stuff.' All he wanted to do was help the film."

Flowers made the film in the Caymans at the end of last year, shooting 300 scenes in 29 days to accommodate a window in Bloom's busy schedule. And in fact, the Caymans were on his mind in the jittery hours before his film's premiere. That same night Hurricane Ivan was bearing down on the islands, packing 140 mph winds. Although Flowers' parents and younger sister were with him here, the rest of his extended family and close friends remained on the islands.

Throughout the evening, he received a series of increasingly harrowing phone calls from the woman who was staying at his parents' home, with reports of damage to the house and homes of his friends living in neighboring areas. "It was rough on me emotionally," Flowers said, "because I'd get some awful news from the island and then someone would say, 'You have an interview with Premiere magazine in 15 minutes.' I have to admit that I cried myself to sleep every night."

When the limo drivers got lost on the way to the premiere, Flowers finally lost his cool. He jumped out of the limo and began pounding on the door of the lead limousine, which was ferrying Paxton and other cast members. "I was yelling, 'Turn the [stupid] car around! I'm from the Cayman Islands and even I know you're going the wrong way!' "

At the screening, the film received rousing applause, as did Flowers and the cast when they took a bow on stage afterward. But when I scanned the area where I'd seen the acquisition executives before the screening, the seats were empty. The buyers had fled.

What happened? When I spoke to buyers afterward, they voiced a chorus of complaints. At nearly two hours, the film felt too long, with too little focus, hampered by an unwieldy multiple flashback structure. Even worse, from a commercial point of view, Bloom, the film's meal ticket, was absent from long stretches of the film.

Flowers clearly has considerable talent as a filmmaker, but he had succumbed to something you often see from first-time directors: He tried to put too much technique and too many of his favorite stories into one film. As the review in Variety put it: "A seesaw chronology and generally chaotic approach plagues 'Haven' ... [which has] a disastrous time-shifting structure that proves nearly impossible to follow."

Before Flowers and Bloom left the screening, Flowers knew he had fixes to make. After arriving at a fashionable club for a post-premiere party, Flowers huddled outside under some heat lamps with Bloom, Yari and Morris' Elwes and Ronson, who serve as Yari's consultants on El Camino Films. Flowers lobbied Yari to let him have the time and money to make another pass at the film. Without any substantial offers from major buyers, it seemed to be the best course of action.

"Taking the movie back was my decision," says Flowers. "I said, 'Please guys, don't sell it now. This is the story of my life. We'll never have another chance to work on it without a lot of outside influences.' So I want to bring in a new editor and some fresh eyes and really tighten it up."

It's still possible, since so few films were sold here this year, that a company hungry for the DVD sales potential of an Orlando Bloom film could buy "Haven" over the next few weeks. But did William Morris and Yari miscalculate by putting "Haven" up for sale when it clearly needed more work? Many of the buyers were surprised that a veteran impresario like Elwes would put the film on the block in such a rough state.

Elwes insists the debut was not premature. "We're filmmaker friendly and Frankie is very passionate about the film, so we gave him the benefit of the doubt," he explains. "We know there's a great movie in there."

Elwes argues that the film is by no means damaged goods, saying that Sundance officials saw the film here and would love to show it at their festival. In fact, a number of films have flopped in their festival debut and still found life afterward. Russian director Nikita Mikhalkov's "Burnt by the Sun" played at Cannes, didn't sell, was reworked and not only sold to Sony, but went on to win the Oscar for Best Foreign Film. "Memento" didn't sell at several film fests, yet went on to become a big indie hit.

"All those acquisition guys will be eating their words later on," says Elwes. "They're the same geniuses who passed on 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' and 'Memento,' which went on to be huge hits."

Flowers has a bumpy road ahead. Even after he reedits the film, he'll have to survive another trial by fire in the chilly air at Sundance.

"It's really tough when your premiere is also your first screening," he says with a sigh. "But I think everyone's seen the diamond that's in this movie. Now I have to find a way to bring it more to the surface."

124#
发表于 2004-9-24 10:25:08 | 只看该作者
哇哈哈,原来拿回修改素这锅意思~谢谢 bjfaye 大:  )
125#
发表于 2004-9-24 16:47:56 | 只看该作者
好极!导演有这种精神,我们有希望看到更好的片子了,好好改,希望他们成功推上大银幕~~
126#
发表于 2004-9-24 22:43:18 | 只看该作者
看了一下这篇总结文章,bjfaye概括的挺好的。文中说到当初Burnt by the Sun在戛纳上映时也是没卖出去,修改之后不仅卖出去了而且还得了奥斯卡。还有memento,在好几个电影节上都没卖掉,现在却成了经典之作。其实当初说到Haven这种两条时间线交错的结构时我立即想到的就是memento(我没看过低俗小说)。
127#
发表于 2004-9-25 00:24:01 | 只看该作者
其實重新剪接不是問題,但如果想增加開花的戲份,開花那有時間補拍?[em08][em02]

希望 Flowers 導演可以想鍋兩全其美的修改方式[em00][em04]

128#
发表于 2004-9-25 00:32:18 | 只看该作者
Etown预计十月能拍完。之后到明年初的一段时间目前还没有新戏,有可能要进行KOH的补拍。如果Haven要补拍也只能抢这个时候了。
可怜的开花,工作好辛苦
129#
发表于 2004-9-25 00:42:35 | 只看该作者
补拍HAVEN不是没可能,时间上多少还是能有滴,只不过要看某开愿不愿意演,(八成愿意)再看如果增加戏份的话,加的戏如何,水到渠成自自然然的加戏最好,如果为了突出OB的戏份,加的部分生硬,倒弄巧成拙.
不过,看HAVEN的剧情,SHY这个角色的故事,要多挖的话也是大有可为,且很利于演员发挥


[此贴子已经被作者于2004-9-25 0:44:02编辑过]

130#
发表于 2004-9-25 00:49:40 | 只看该作者
是的,其实新人的作品即使不够成熟,却自有一股激情在,容易引起观众的共鸣,导演dd要加开花的戏分偶棉自然乐见其成,8过还是8要为了开花大动干戈,自然些好,”犹抱琵琶半遮面“真的强过”赤裸裸“。

——Etown预计十月能拍完。之后到明年初的一段时间目前还没有新戏,有可能要进行KOH的补拍。如果Haven要补拍也只能抢这个时候了。

汗,小dd哪里强得过爷爷??

——希望 flowers 導演可以想鍋兩全其美的修改方式

厚厚,8如小dd跟了开花见爷爷滴说,两全其美~

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