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发表于 2004-3-27 00:37:48 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
我自己翻译的,出自http://elflady.com/orlandolove.index

     这是我看见到过的值得一看的评论,有理有据。通过后面的回答也可以得到很多影片信息,也能了解到她为什么喜欢这部片子和Orlando的表演。

     对那些不是充满了因为嫉妒而无缘由的谩骂,就是对哪个演员的身子流口水的评论,当然还有国内还不知道影片到底讲的是什么就不负责任胡说的所谓专业媒体,已经厌倦了,看些脑子清楚的人写的东西吧。

请注意:这也是观众的声音,而她提到谁比较多也能反映观众的想法。

稍后我会贴出剧情的具体介绍,包括详细场战斗场景描述、细节、结局、一些对话等,她家看后自己分析吧,不要为他人的话左右想法,产生怀疑。

writen by  jsclark86(一位美国女士)

          《特洛伊》评论

    2004年3月10日,星期三,我十分幸运的第一次看到了《特洛伊》。我首先要说的是我必须说这是一部特别精彩的电影,Orlando在电影中看起来太棒了!(Eric Bana 和 Brad Pitt 看起来也不错)而且这是我看到过的他最好的表演。

    电影刚一开始就很快进入了故事。他告诉观众斯巴达的背景和他们攻击特洛伊的其他原因(除去那个显而易见的原因)。电影进行得十分流畅,音乐也配合得天衣无缝。故事更多的集中在阿喀琉斯身上,没有太多关于特洛伊的情节,但是不用担心,帕里斯在电影中占的篇幅比之前的预告片中多了很多。赫克托尔和阿喀琉斯两人的战斗是我见过的最精彩的战斗场面,同时帕里斯和斯巴达王Menelaus的战斗也很有可看性。Orlando向莱戈拉斯那样射出了一些箭,而且仍然是百发百中。

    关于裸露的部分,Brad比Orlando多得多。Orlando看起来已经足够好不用再展示什么。而Brad的赤裸的背部有几次被展示,Diane(海伦)展现了腰以上部分的裸体,但只有半秒的时间。

    总之,《特洛伊》这部电影是极优秀的,故事讲述得很完美,演员的表演也极为接触。
    我仍然期待这部电影,虽然我已经看过了.

下面是问答
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 楼主| 发表于 2004-3-27 00:39:42 | 只看该作者
问答:(Q:问题,A:回答)

Q:帕里斯和海伦love scene ...是在床上吗?
A:遗憾得告诉你,没有love scene他们是裸体的,仅此而已,他们交谈,帕里斯给了海伦一条项链。我不认为有任何furs on bed。

Q:你提到这是Orlando至今为止最好的表演,能详细阐述一下吗?
A:我认为帕里斯与Menelaus战斗的那场戏是整部电影中最好的一幕:帕里斯爬向赫克托尔,他眼中的恐惧太强烈了。

Q:演员头发上的别针是干什么用的?
A:那只是装饰,赫克托尔也有。

Q:什么?,没有床戏?No making out like weasels in heat?!Rats!(这两句我是不会翻译,那位大人指点一二,多些!)
   另一个问题,帕里斯在电影中有多讨人喜欢?我推测一开始他看上去似乎很不讨人喜欢,但是似乎随着情节的发展,观众会对他产生一些同情,至少这是我从一些试映评论中得到的印象。
A:一开始,帕里斯不是很讨人喜欢,因为他从Menelaus那里偷走的海伦。之后,在与Menelaus一战中,他表现得像个胆小鬼。但是到了最后,他为自己赎罪了,他参与了更多的战斗。
   Menelaus不同情帕里斯,因为他偷走了海伦。但观众在意识到帕里斯有多么爱海伦时,并且看到他被Menelaus击败的事实后,确实开始喜欢他了。

Q:我们能看到帕里斯洗澡的场面吗?
A:不,很不幸我们看不到。

Q:我希望知道《特洛伊》感觉像不像一部史诗般的电影?他看起来像是被称为经典的电影吗?
A:它将被看作史诗般的电影,但他讲述了一个完整的故事,电影主要讲述了阿喀琉斯一生的经历。我必须说这不会成为经典,应为其中的演员:他们现在还不是好莱坞真正的大明星,我承认Orlando是现在最热的明星,Brad Pitt也是知名的演员,但是他们现在还没有被认为是好莱坞中的重量级演员。让我们期待中情况在将来会有所改变。

Q:帕里斯没有死是吗?我在一些照片中看到他被剑刺中倒在地上,他是死了还是只是受伤了?
A:帕里斯在电影中没有死,他被Menelaus伤得很重,但是没有死。

Q:你太幸运了!你能来这里告诉我们这些真是太感谢了。你提到的那部分Orlando最好的表演场面使我早猜到会是的。我认为我会在为他感到遗憾的同时反感他——我已经迫不及待去看这部电影了。我的问题:你是怎么看到《特洛伊》的试映的?
A:一周前,我再影院中看《Hidalgo》(同样是部好电影)(注:Viggo主演《沙漠神驹》)我出去买些吃的,然后我看见一个女人正在发小传单,是关于一次秘密试映的,于是,我拿了一份,上面有电影的描述,但是没说名字,以防有人对电影存有偏见,他被叫做R.S.V.P.,上面说3月10日6点放映,我却了,幸运的是那是《特洛伊》

Q:太酷了!你需要付钱吗?
A:不,那是免费的。我一分钱都不用付。

Q:如果你定级,你回定什么级?
A:我将定为R级,他在R级和PG-13级的边界线上。如果一些场景被剪掉(即:阿喀琉斯和Briseis一起的镜头和一些战斗场面),他将使PG-13,但是我认为他们不会剪掉任何场景,他们只需要使电影引人注目。

Q:预告片中的镜头会出现在电影中吗?
A:是的,全部你看到的都会出现在影片中。

Q:结束与Menelaus的战斗后,有帕里斯和海伦在一起的镜头吗?(照顾他受伤的爱人)?
A:很不幸,没有,尽管我希望有。

Q:我们能看到阿喀琉斯杀死赫克托尔后,拖着他的尸体行进的场面吗?
A:是的,有这个场面。阿喀琉斯十分愤怒,应为赫克托尔啥了他的表弟Pariclus,所以他与赫克托尔战斗,杀了他,并且将他的尸体拖回了帐篷。


Q:你看到特洛以往Priam向斯巴达王Menelaus请求归他儿子的尸体的场景吗?
A:是的,电影中有这个情结。但是发生在特洛伊王和阿喀琉斯之间,而不是Menelaus(因为他已经被赫克托尔杀死了)特洛伊王偷偷潜入阿喀琉斯的帐篷,请求他归还儿子的议题。阿喀琉斯犹豫了一下,终于还是给了他,在归还之前,阿喀琉斯对着尸体流泪了(也许是因为对被他杀死的所有人的内疚和遗憾),之后,他承诺特洛伊将有12天的和平来举行葬礼,在后来,特洛伊木马被造了出来,剩下的事大家就都知道了。

Q:你提到的海伦以脱下衣服作为回答的场景中,她是否完全赤裸?还是没有继续拍她,或是她里面还穿着什么东西?
A:在那个场景中,海伦的胸部没有被拍到,但在另一个场景中能看到。

Q:我必须承认我糊涂了,Menelaus被赫克托尔杀了?离我看关于特洛伊战争的神话有一段时间了,但我发誓我记得在战争最后,Menelaus还活着,海伦以她的诱惑力,又回到了他的身边,最后他们一起回到了斯巴达。
A:你没有糊涂,Benioff改编中最重大的变化就是Menelaus被赫克托尔杀了。在神话史诗中,海伦在Philocentes杀斯帕里斯后确实回到了斯巴达。但在电影中,海伦、赫克托尔的妻子、帕里斯和其他一些人都通过一系列地下通道掏出了特洛伊城。影片没有交待他们去哪了,他们只是逃了出来。我知道的只是帕里斯和海伦仍然在一起,他们仍旧相爱,并且和其他人一起从地道逃走了。电影结束在特洛伊被攻陷,并没有说之后的事。

Q:赫克托尔死的时候,帕里斯是什吗表现?
A:帕里斯对赫克托尔的死的反应,和《魔戒》中莱戈拉斯对甘道夫和博罗米尔死时的反应差不多,他什么都没说,但是你可以从他的眼神中看出他是多么伤心。
  赫克托尔死后,帕里斯好像认识到了他都作了写什么,他在战斗中更有信心了,并且把事情掌握在自己手中,他变得更勇敢了。

Q:海伦的镜头多吗?
A:事实上不多,电影中没有几个海伦的镜头。第一个镜头是他们赤裸的在一起,之后是他们在屋里,帕里斯穿着长袍,我们可以看见他的胸肌(他们在那里秦文),最后是帕里斯在去找Briseis前与她吻别(他们之后说再见)除此之外,没有他们两个一起的镜头。

Q:电影中有神的角色出现吗?
A:我听说这部电影和《伊利亚特》联系的并不紧密。神被提到过,但是他们没有像在《伊利亚特》中那样作为角色出现在电影中。我没读过《伊利亚特》,所以我不知道这部电影与它的藐视是否一样。但是我荏苒喜欢这部电影。(请注意:外国人也不是人人都看过《伊利亚特》,也不是都在乎改编多少,我们就不用过早担忧了。)

Q:在电影中,海伦为什么要逃走?
A:开始,她想回到Menelaus身边,因为他认为如果那样做了可以阻止战争的发生,但是赫克托尔告诉她斯巴达人在任何情况下都回攻打特洛伊。于是,她回到了帕里斯身边,成为他永远的爱人,并且和他逃走了,这样他们就不会死了,斯巴达人也找不到他们。

Q:在预告片中帕里斯说:“Wewill be together in this world of the next.”是在什么时候?
A:是在特洛伊被攻陷,帕里斯在把海伦和赫克托尔的妻子送进地道后,去找表妹Briseis时。

Q:阿喀琉斯和Briseis相爱了吗?他们在阿喀琉斯被帕里斯射中,临死的时候说了些什么?
A:他们相爱了。阿喀琉斯没和Briseis说太多。他只是让她走,自己保重,他没有说他爱她(但你可以说他已经这么表示出来了)。但是Briseis不想离开,直到帕里斯对他说他们必须走了,她才离开。阿喀琉斯在她走后才死去的。

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 楼主| 发表于 2004-3-27 00:40:17 | 只看该作者
以下是英文原文,我在翻译时作了一些顺序的调整,所以与中文顺序不同,感兴趣可以看看,我尽量翻译准确了。

On Wednesday, March 10, 2004, I was lucky enough to see Troy for the first time. The first thing I have to say it that the movie is AWESOME! Orlando looks so good in this film (Eric Bana and Brad Pitt have some fines bodies too) and this is his best acting I have seen so far.
The film jumps right into the story. It tells the audience about the background of Sparta and the other reasons why they attack Troy (besides the obvious one). The film runs very smoothly and the music fits perfectly. The story is focused more on Achilles and not so much Troy, but don't worry, Paris is in the movie more than the last review mentioned. The fight between Hector and Achilles is one of the best fight scenes I have ever seen and the fight scene between Paris and Menelaus is also one to watch for (not giving away any secerets). Also, Orlando pulls some Legolas style arrow shooting and he still does not miss.
About the nudity, there is more of Brad than there is of Orlando. Orlando is shown just enough to not show his whatsits and Brad's rear is shown a few times. Oh, and Diane is shown from the waist up, but it is only for a split second.
All in all the film is EXCELLENT, the story is told wonderfully, and the acting is supurb.

I will be happy to answer any questions you have about the film. If you post your question, I will answer them as best I can.


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 楼主| 发表于 2004-3-27 00:45:07 | 只看该作者
Now, questions:

1. The Paris/Helen love scene...is it on furs?  

2. When you mentioned that this is Orlando's best acting so far, could you elaborate?

3. What are those hairclips in the characters' hair?

4. Why don't I have any serious questions?  I think my brain is fried with all the Paris pics!


1. Sorry to say, there wasn't a "love scene". They were naked, thats all. They were talking and Paris gave Helen a necklace. I don't think that there were any furs on the bed.

2. I thought that the scene when Paris is fighting Menelaus was his best scene in the movie. Paris crawls to Hector and the fear in Paris's eyes was so intense.

3. The hairclips in his hair are there for show; Hector has them too.

4. These ARE serious questions.


What?! No furs?! No making out like weasels in heat?! Rats!  

Another question, how sympathetic is Paris in this film. I gather he comes across as quite unlikeable at first but it seems as if the audience might gain a small measure of sympathy for him. At least that is the impression I got from some test screening reviewers.


At first, Paris isn't liked much because he stole Helen from Menelaus. Then he is a coward in the fight between him and Menelaus, but in the end he redeems himself. He fights more.

Spoilers! Highlite to read.

Paris isn't sympathetic towards Menelaus because Paris wants Helen for himself. The audience does begin to feel sympathy towards Paris because they know how much he loves Helen and the fact that he gets a beating from Menelaus.

Wait a minute. I feel like I should mod this.  

Now for a real serious question: Do we ever see Paris in a bath?

Actually, what I'd like to know is whether this feels like an epic? Does it feel like something that will be a classic?


No, unfortunately we never see Paris in a bath.

This would be considered an epic, but it plays out like a story. It is more about Achilles and what he goes through in his life. I would say that this wouldn't be a classic because of who is in it; they are not really big Hollywood stars right now. Granted that Orlando is the IT boy right now and Brad Pitt is a well known actor, but they aren't considered among the big names in Hollywood right now. Lets hope that it will all change in the future.

i have a question..paris doesn't die or anything right??? because i saw some screencaps and it looked like he got stabbed with a sword and like fell to the ground..did he die or just get injured..??

Lucky lucky wotsit you! Thank you so much for coming and telling us about it. The part that you mentioned as being Orlando's best scene is the one I guessed would be. I know that I will feel so sorry for him and yet so disgusted by him at the same time at that bit, I can't wait to see it.

My question: How do you get to see movie previews?


Paris does NOT die in the movie. He is severly beaten by Menelaus, but he DOES NOT die.  

I saw Hidlago on Sunday, March 7 and a woman was passing out a flyer for a Sneak Preview of a movie. They can't say what the movie is because then people would be biased toward the movie. I guess I was lucky that day.

Oh thank the Goddess! I don't think I could handle seeing him die... Much releaved I don't get to see Paris die in the movie! Thank you!

And I can't say I have any questions as EL, Serein (your question about the bath nearly undid me btw - not sure I could live seeing that!  ) and the rest have asked all the important questions. Thank you ladies and thank you for being able to answer them for us  


Everything that you see in the trailers is in the movie. The movie may change, like so many do, but for now what you see is what you will get.


unplugged32 wrote:
1- Is the scene from the trailer where Helen says 'They're coming for me' (Orlando in a black robe) in the film??

Yes, this scene IS in the movie.  

unplugged32 wrote:
2- Also wanted to know if that scene where Paris is in full armor and Helen appears to remove her dress is in the final cut?

This scene is also in the movie.  

unplugged32 wrote:
3- After the battle with Menelaus, is there a Paris/Helen scene (taking care of her poor, injured darling  ) and if so, what takes place???

Unfortunately, there is not a scene like this. I wish there was.




There is a scene with Helen and Paris where they are both naked. You can see Paris just low enough to not see his whatsits and Helen is sitting on the bed. Paris gives Helen a necklace and when she goes to sit up, her right breast is shown for a second or so.






Elements wrote:
1. Do we get to see Achilles dragging the Body of Hector around after he has killed him?

Yes, this scene is in the movie. Achilles gets really angry at Hector for killing Achilles younger cousin, Particlus, so Achilles goes and fights Hector, kills him, and drags his body back to their camp.

Elements wrote:
2. Do we get to see the scene between Priam and Meneleus when Priam begs for his son's body back?

Yes, this scene is also in the movie. But the scene is between King Priam and Achilles, not Menelaus (Menelaus is already dead at this point; he was killed by Hector). Priam sneaks into the tent of Achilles and asks him for his son's body. Achilles hesitates, but gives Hector's body to his father and before he does, Achilles cries over Hector's body (probably because of the guilt and shame of everything and everybody he has killed). Achilles then, promises that the Trojans will have 12 days of peace for the funeral, but then the Trojan Horse is made and you know the rest of the story.

luv4ever wrote:
that scene that u said that she responded by taking her dress off like in the trailer is she literally naked, or is she and they just dont show it, or does she have something on after she takes off her dress.  


In the scene you are talking about Helen's breasts are not shown, but in another scene after that.


I have to admit I am confused. Menelaus is killed by Hector? Now, it's been awhile since I've read the mythology of the Trojan War, but I could have sworn at the end of the War, Menelaus was still alive and that Helen,using her wiles, concinved him to take her back, and because he loved her he did and they returned to Sparta?

Angel
You're not confused, Angel! In Benioff's adaptation, one of the biggest changes is Menelaus' death by Hector.

In the myth cycle, Helen does return to Sparta after Philocetes kills Paris and one of the survivors of the sack of Troy, Aeneas, goes on to found Rome (well, the Romans liked the idea at any rate!).



Helen, Hector's wife, Briseis, Paris, and others escape from Troy through a series of tunnels. It doesn't say where they go, they just escape. As far as I know Paris and Helen remain together. Paris and Helen are still in love and they leave with the others through the tunnels.

The film ends after Troy is done burning; it doesn't go into what happens after Troy in taken.

Paris' reaction to Hector's death is like in LOTR. Like when he sees Gandalf and Boromir die. He doesn't say anything, but you can see that it hurts him in his eyes.

After Hector's death, Paris does seem to realize what he has done. He becomes more confident in his fighting and takes things in his own hands. He becomes more brave.
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 楼主| 发表于 2004-3-27 00:45:38 | 只看该作者
Oh, and yes, Hector does kill Menelaus.

I hope that helps. Sorry it wasn't so clear.


Not really. There isn't much of Helen in the movie. There is the first scene when they are naked, when they are in the room where Paris has his robe on and you can see his chest (they kiss there), and they kiss when Paris is going to find Briseis (they say goodbye until later). Other than that, nothing really happens between them.



I had heard that the film is loosely based on the Iliad. The Goda are mentioned, but they are not characters in the movie, like they are in the Iliad. I haven't read the Iliad, so I don't know how well the movie portrayes the Iliad.

But, I still like it very much.



luv4ever wrote:
also people say that helen wanted to go back to sparta and that she tried to escape? but i would think since paris didn't exactly take her against her will then i would think she loves him. also what about the part in the trailer where she said their coming for me.


Everything that is in the trailers, is in the film now. They might change things, like so many do. But for now everything you have seen so far is in the movie.

What you see is what you WIll get, hopefully.


Well, a week ago, I saw Hidalgo in the theater (good movie by the way). I went to go buy some food and I saw a woman handing out flyers. She said it was for a sneak preview. So, I got a flyer and it had a description of the movie, but it didn't say what it was (other wise one will be biased toward the movie). It said to R.S.V.P., I did, it sadi to show up on the 10 @ 6, and I did and it happened to be Troy.


that's cool. did u have to pay?

No, I didn't it was free.  . I was able to keep all my money.

Oh, yeah, the theater was full; there was no seat avaiable. I listened to everyones conversations (I know, I was evesdroping) and everyone said that it had to be Troy, they counldn't think of anything else.


If I were to rate Troy, I would rate it R. It's kind of on the border line of R and PG-13. If some scenes were taken out (i.e. Achilles and Briseis and some fighting ones), then it would probably be PG-13. But I don't think they are going to do much of anything with the scenes. THey just have to work on the special effects.


in troy js, why does helen try to escape?

First, she tries to go back to Menelaus because she thinks she can stop the war if she does, but Hector tells here that the Spartans will destroy Troy anyway.

Then she goes back to Paris and becomes his forever and escapes with him so that they won't die and the Spatans can't find them.


Sorry, there are no loves scenes.

Just a scene where, if the bed or he moved, then everything in thr front would be shown (I was hoping he would move, but he didn't  ).

I was totally expecting a love scene too, but there wasn't one. Darn!


DrEm314 wrote:
Aaaaa, whipped cream... chocolate... makes for some  "fun"  dreams.

Don't forgot, though we don't get to see Paris and Helen get down and dirty and !*$^%(%^ like animals, we do get to seem him n3kk1d! He's down to his birthday suit and looking hot! Man has definitely been working out.


You can say that again!  
A Paris sundae would be mighty good right about now.




now that u have told everybody that u have seen troy everybody has been asking u stuff about, including me. sry. im just really in to it. and if its rated r i probably wont see it because of my parents. well i have one more thing to ask. when in the movie does paris say, "we will be together in this world or the next to helen." also are achilles and briesis in love? and what do they say to eachother when achilles is dying when paris shoots him? thanx

Well, when Paris says, "We will be together in this world or the next." is when Paris goes to find Briseis after leading Helen and Hector's wife to the tunnels.
Achilles and Briseis ARE in love.  

Achilles doesn't say much to Briseis. He tells her to go and save herself, but he doesn't say that he loves her (but you can tell that he does) and Brisesi doesn't want to go. Paris tells her that they need to go and Briseis does. Achilles is nice enough to die after she leaves.

I still am looking forward to the film, eventhough I'vw already seen it. I just can't get enough of Orlando.  

The necklace that Paris gives Helen is made out of shells (I think). It has long thin ones (maybe 1.5")with small round ones seperating them. The long ones don't go all the way around, there are maybe 8 or 10 of them. I'm not so sure about the neckalce because I wasn't concentraing on that part, i f you know what I mean.

Paris Sundaes!  We all are going to imagine the cream and chocolate and cherries and strawberries at this point in the movie. I get more excited the nearer it gets. Counting down the days like this, better than waiting for christmas with your advent calender as a child. I'm also looking forward to Brad in this movie. Don't throw rocks at me girls! I think he looks better in Troy than I have ever seen him.

Just think, if we are all this bad now, just what is it going to belike on this thread a couple of days before the big event and actually after we've seen it!!
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发表于 2004-3-27 00:55:35 | 只看该作者
强烈感谢这位朋友的翻译

虽然看过一点这个原文,但英文实在是烂的俺只能看个大意,还是MM的这篇译文更精确

这个观众的看后感,是目前为止透露剧情最多的,也是相对客观的

7#
发表于 2004-3-27 01:00:00 | 只看该作者
谢谢楼主大人的翻译,看了这个评论,对oril扮演的帕里斯放心了不少,哈哈
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 楼主| 发表于 2004-3-27 01:08:13 | 只看该作者
多谢两位大人的鼓励,你们的话是我继续翻译下去的理由。我尽快把这位女士写的完整剧情翻译下去,虽然很长,但有了大人们的夸奖,再苦再累也值得了。

更重要的是,我希望更多喜欢orlando的人能真正知道他演得到底怎样。我并不在乎别人和杂志怎样评论他,但是出现在fans中的怀疑声最让我担心和难受,这也是为什么我下定决心放弃潜水到处发帖的原因,我希望我的翻译能告诉大家一些真实的情况,能够改变一些人不好的印象。希望如此。

永远祝福Orlando,那个现实中我们应该珍惜的宝石。
9#
发表于 2004-3-27 01:23:32 | 只看该作者
MM大可放心,其实,不论中外,真正的OB FANS就算可能多少有点认为OB年轻经验少,要更多磨练演技,也是出于对OB的一种--------怎么说呢,高标准严要求,希望他越来越好

而那些一上来连个理由也说不出,(具体不说OB哪里演的不好,哪个表情啊动作啊处理得有问题的之类的),就来句什么"实在很差,""演得不行",这样的,一般不是OB FANS,或说,不是真正喜欢这个演员的人
言论自由是没错,但喜欢他的人,相对来说会更认真的去观察他在每部戏中的表现,不论OB在这部戏里形像是美是丑

当然,俺这里不是把质疑OB演技的人一棒打死,而是认为,人人眼光不同,看法可以不同,但要有理有据

有些人可能只是看了OB的脸,才关注这个演员,而他们对电影看得很少,对杂志上的一些话也太过相信,没有自己的看法

人云亦云,不自己去判断,是最没意思的事
当然,人的年纪不同经历不同知识面不同,这些因素,也形成了每个人的看问题方式的不同

OB的名气越来越大,对他的不好的意见也会相对增多,这是客观规律,但俺还是相信自己的眼睛多过媒体
特别是国内的末流媒体,那些人,整个就是混饭吃的

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发表于 2004-3-27 10:50:01 | 只看该作者
非常感谢这位大人的翻译。其实,大人不必为一些人的无稽之谈感到气愤。如果一个人从骨子里讨厌OB,那么,无论你拿出怎样充足地证据证明OB的演技多么的精湛,他也不会赞同你的看法。其实,从OB接到越来越多的片约,从OB从担任影片中的配角到开始升任影片中的主角,我们就可以明白他的演技得到越来越多人的赏识,可以让人放心地让他挑大梁了。因为好莱坞不像内地或是港台的演艺圈,一些人光凭一张脸也能红极一时。如果OB演得糟糕透顶,早就被人踢到一边去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2004-3-27 11:36:29 | 只看该作者
谢谢众位大人,也不用老夸奖我,我在翻译的同时也可以学习英文,提高英语水平。我倒不是对不同意见有看法,只是对有部分人被不负责任的评论误导的现实感到痛心而已。希望我的努力能让大家看到更多的信息,可以自己粪便。
12#
发表于 2004-3-27 12:48:21 | 只看该作者
非常感想大人的翻译。我的英语不算很好,又好巧不巧看到的几篇评论都是令人失望的,所以对这部片子有些没信心。或者说之前我的期望太高,希望OB的每一部片子都能像魔戒一样横扫票房的同时横扫奖项,既受非原作读者的喜爱也受读过原作的人的推崇。汗,所以看到一点点批评的意见就沮丧了。

如果说对TROY这部片子,我还是抱有怀疑的,不过看过片子之前一切还没有定论。但是对OB的演技我还是有信心的,特别是看过凯利帮之后,我更认定OB是个有天分的演员。一个年轻又形象出众的演员,演戏却不摆酷,不耍帅,这是非常难得的。而且他的肢体、表情,特别是眼神很有表现力。不足在于有时候对角色再创造的深度不够,显得青涩稚嫩,这在与老戏骨的对比中就表现的比较明显。而这一点是可以随着经验和阅历的增加而得到弥补的。

汗,扯远了。说回TROY。看到一个帖子说OB的fans不应该去看这部片子,因为很可能会想把Paris这个人从电影里拉出来暴打一顿。笑,要是OB真把Paris这个绣花枕头演的这么传神那足以说明他的演技出色了。说起来,可能是年龄比较大的缘故,比起OB在新片里帅不帅,能不能让人尖叫来,我更在意他的表演如何。张曼玉说过,明星是暂时的,演员才是永远的。我希望OB不仅是一个star(他已经是了),更是一个actor,一个artist。这也是我不希望他演007的原因。不过就目前来看这个得过阅读障碍症的年轻人其实聪明的紧,几部片子的合作班底都不乏实力派人物,虽然演的是配角可收获肯定比在三流片子里演主角大多了。事实也证明,配角的地位并不能限制OB的光辉,他的才华得到了像Ridley Scott这样的大导演的认同,那些什么“花瓶”之说也不过就是些无知加嫉妒的人瞎嚷嚷而已。
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发表于 2004-3-27 15:26:03 | 只看该作者
要怎么说呢~~~~楼主太厉害了~~~~~

                      除了佩服外无话可说,如果让俺也有这种水平的话,那我就开心死了

                      那有什么办法呢~~~~哎~~~~现在只能好好学英语了`

                       不过还是要说一声,辛苦楼主了

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发表于 2004-3-27 17:02:29 | 只看该作者
谢谢楼主,偶承认看过一些负面评论后有些沮丧,你现在就等于给偶打了一剂强心针。不过话说回来,无论怎样都会支持ob的,所谓眼见为实嘛。但现在,偶会带着比较愉快的心情去迎接影片的上映。
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发表于 2004-3-27 22:45:22 | 只看该作者
这两天看过一个关于阅读障碍的报道,有专家认为,得这种病的人,不但不是因为不够聪明,反而其中某些人,是相当的聪明

楼上有朋友说得有理,对于不喜欢的人来说,无论摆多少证据,他们都会当看不见的

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