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发表于 2004-5-9 00:28:03 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式

刚找到这张图,估计过几天会有米字的,



还有一篇troy的review,极正点,是这几天来偶看过最好的了,米授权,就别转载了(hoho,英文滴,估计也米人转吧)


I'm not good at writing reviews so I'll just list:

*Sets: Amazing sets, as you can see from the trailer. They really create the mood of Troy. The lighting and the colors are all very rich and it makes it very entertaining to look at.

*Costumes: Beautiful and true to the times. Nice attention to detail.

*Music: Eh, it wasn't memorable, but it wasn't awful either. At times it got a little distracting. I liked the music on the trailer/website a lot better than in the film.

*Script: It was up and down. It wasn't particularly great, there were great moments. Overall though, it tended to be cliche and a little predictable. Some of the lines were just weird and funny though I don't think they intended to be. They also get a little cheesy at times, but in some instances, the delivery makes up for it.

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Nowwww the acting!

Sean Bean - He completely embodied Odysseus. I wish, in his case, they were more true to the Illiad and that his character got more time. He was perfectly warrior-like, strong, intelligent, and rugged. Most of his thunder went to Brad, unfortunately, but Sean is actually very memorable, otherwise.

Peter O'Toole - What more can you really say about this guy? He's a seasoned professional and handles the camera, dialogue, and set with power and grace. One thing I really loved about him was the honesty of his performance. At one moment he could be powerful, regal, and confident and next he could be weak, vulnerable, and aging. It is such a nice performance and he really makes a high point whenever he's on the screen.

Eric Bana - I have not seen BHD or Hulk, so Eric's performance completely blew me out of the water. My goodness. He completely embodies the loyalty, the honor, the power, and the goodness of Hector. He becomes the most heart-breaking character of them all and his performance is one in which you just say "Wow". He steals every scene he's in and it was such a joy and surprise to see him on screen. I hope to see more of him. I don't know if it was an Oscar-worthy performance, but definitely something to be proud of. He carries the movie. He's intense and in his scenes he just grabs your heart. And other things. The guy is HOT.

The woman who played Brysies (sp?) - I don't know her name, but out of all of the female characters, she was the strongest. I don't know if I was impressed with her performance simply because she came out of nowhere or because it was actually very good. Either way, she does a very wonderful job and she works well with Brad, actually carrying the scenes with him more than he does. The scary thing is that, in some points, she's more beautiful than Helen. Oops?

Diane Kruger - Wow. What a disappointment. I was skeptical of her when I saw the trailer. She just didn't scream "Helen" to me, but with some of the production shots, I thought she might be promising. Besides, the true essence of Helen, to me, would be in the performance so I gave her the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, she just did not deliver. At all. Her performance was flat, confusing, and completely unforgettable. I say confusing not because she was in the middle of a love triangle, but confusing in the actor's sense: I don't think she made a choice on how she wanted to portray Helen so her objectives become muddled. When you don't see her on screen, you don't think about her and when you walk out of the theatre, you don't remember her. It is hard to cast a "most beautiful woman in the world", but I think the right actor could've won over everyone. Diane is pretty, but that's all she stays: Pretty. And she's not even mistifyingly pretty either. She's very typically CK-model pretty and it's so disappointing. You don't ever understand why anyone would go through trouble for her. You never get it. She loses the electricity and enrapturing sense you would expect from a Helen. Even more surprising to me was the fact that she can be in a scene with a half-naked Orlando Bloom and generate ZERO PASSION and ZERO CHEMISTRY. I mean, the two of them together were like water. It was flat. On a 1-10 their chemistry was a 4. None of their moments were intimate enough or deep enough, partly fault of the acting, and partly fault of the script. It was just plain ol' plain rather than being a trademark of passion and love.

Brad Pitt - Gorgeous, sexy, brooding... until he opens his mouth. I know it sounds mean, but when you put him in a cast of classically trained actors (O'Toole, Bean, Christie, Bloom) he just falls short. He is also not timeless or legendary as you would expect him to be. During fight scenes and battle scenes (which were absolutely incredible by the way) he embodied Achilles. Physically, I bought it, but the aura he created and the persona he exhibited was so 21st century. It didn't have a timelessness to it or a power to it. I saw Achilles, but I heard "Brad Pitt" or any American guy with a waning British accent. Really distracting. Yes, there are some butt shots, but the love scene between him and Bryseis looks better in the trailer than it does on the screen. Theirs was another love pair that wasn't really solidified.

Orlando Bloom - He gave a very good performance. It wasn't on the level like Bana's was, but it was definitely one of the stronger moments. He is Paris, body and mind. He is just that character inside and out. He's stunning on screen. His beauty is almost distracting at times, especially when he's not dressed (though you don't get much more than a calander shot than any real nudity). I'm not much of a fan of his, not because I don't like him, but because I don't really know much about him and haven't seen him in a role that really captured me. All of his performances have been "good" but nothing to make me go "WOW". This isn't his fault, though. None of his roles have really called for it. I'll say he made the most of all of the roles he's been given and I think he'll develop nicely as an actor. I'm looking forward to seeing more from him. But on the subject of Paris - The first half of his performance was MUCH better than the second. The second weakens it. The problem is that the arc of his character never gels. He is the perfect Paris at first: seductive, love-sick, weak, cowardly, scum-bag-y. At times you don't know whether you want to kiss him or kick him. He works that well at it. Then once they give him the bow and arrow, he all of the sudden becomes a cunning, fierce warrior. It weakend what he had built up as a really good Paris and kind of threw everything off. The poor guy also had the worst lines. I mean, come on, it was pure cheese at times, but the dedication he had to the moments win you over in the end. I noticed this in LOTR, he is much more powerful in his non-verbal than his verbal, and it really comes through again in this movie. On the aspect of the chemistry with Helen, he falls victim to what he did in POTC: He's put in supposedly loving scenes with women who fail to give him anything to work with. Diane is the same as Kiera. You don't see anything from their end. But from his end, you see all of the passion, and love, and dedication, and almost obsessiveness that you want to see between Paris and Helen. You see him struggling for this woman, but the problem is the woman never really gives the audience a reason to understand what all the fuss is about. Overall, though, his performance was good. Not the greatest, but he's evolving with each role, and I think that he will definitely be a high point of the film.

Overall I say the movie works like a Greek tragedy. You have the potential for greatness, and even some potentially great moments, but the powers that be (directing, script, etc) make it hard for them to get past just "good". If you're looking for just a great movie that is visually stimulating with little gems of good performances, Troy won't disappoint you. If you're expecting a classic epic that relies more on the characters and story, you might be a little disappointed.








[此贴子已经被作者于2004-5-9 15:02:43编辑过]

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发表于 2004-5-9 00:48:42 | 只看该作者
I'm not much of a fan of his

我觉得如果原来不是的话,那么这部影片之后她就是了。
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发表于 2004-5-9 01:35:44 | 只看该作者
恩,把这部片子当成orli的片子来看就好了,反正一开始偶也没把它指望成一部跨时代的epic movie来期待。不知道哪部片子可以真正看到和orli配合好的女演员啊。(突然有个bt想法,和他谈情说爱相配的最近几个都不好,会不会给他弄个老妈反而配的很好? hoho,希望他演那个记者了)
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发表于 2004-5-9 01:57:44 | 只看该作者
这里面最搞笑的就是那位写文章的mm感到非常惊讶:
Dianne对着衣衫半褪的Orlando Bloom 居然没有反应!
笑死了^^
作者好像认为他们之间没有 “ chemical ” 和 " passion" 责任在Dianne身上的说。
不过这位Helen姐姐也确实给人感觉有点儿"木呆呆",可能做模特儿做久了,冷冰冰的。
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发表于 2004-5-9 03:40:22 | 只看该作者
换个角度,helen那时候想要离开她丈夫的念头大于对paris的爱,就象在他们回troy路上,helen的表情都是担心大于其他,这样helen对paris的表白没啥反映也就可以理解了 ,一句话,没看电影之前实在不好评论,呵呵

(想起ob表白的神情,不行了,我晕~~~~)
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发表于 2004-5-9 05:14:59 | 只看该作者
恩恩,不过作者看过了的说。好像很有几个男观众也是这么说的。
Homer的原著里面他们之间Lust成份较多。但是好歹是情人关系,没有“Passion”就。。。
我下周五看,拉不到同学一起去,她们嫌贵,情愿看盗版T_T。
但是为了对着大屏幕花痴OB,我一个人去也行(握拳ing)

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发表于 2004-5-9 06:03:51 | 只看该作者
I am not supposed to surf internet now,  but I'd like to say something.

I knew it, I knew it!!!! THIS Helen will mess the thing up! And she did. As far as I see, OB never play with a suitable female opposite. I felt from the very beginning that Diana and OB won't create any chemical effect. OB is a very good actor, but Diana ....-_-b However, I just want to see OB, who cares about Helen?!  And it makes me feel good that Helen and Paris don't match. Well, just to make me not that jealous.... :)

Since Van Helsing is doing really bad, I am a little bit worry about Troy. But again, Troy must be much better, because there are excellent actors, rich history background, and the fantastic CG.

Again, i won't be disappointed about the movie. Why? OB involved, isn't there any thing exciting than this???
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发表于 2004-5-9 06:08:09 | 只看该作者
besides, I am looking forward to seeing the half-naked OB. ^^ I don't believe that any girls can resist such a sexy, hot baby ~~~~~~~~
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发表于 2004-5-9 06:51:01 | 只看该作者
哈哈, 回到家喽, 可以放心灌水了~~~^0^

我身边全部的人都很期待TROY的, 但多数人是为了PITT。。。
那个HELEN大姐, 第一眼看过去,就觉得不会演戏。结果还真是没感觉, 不入戏的那种。 枉费OB的演技再好, 也擦不出火花。 另外一个女孩, 好像叫Rose吧, 偶早觉得她比Helen好看了。 看来看去, OB还是站在BANA哥哥的身边最称 ^^b
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发表于 2004-5-9 08:43:40 | 只看该作者
这张图早先有出啊
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 楼主| 发表于 2004-5-9 15:00:18 | 只看该作者
以下是引用枝俏在2004-5-9 8:43:40的发言:
这张图早先有出啊


我知,我知,表过上次那张只有一点点大嘛,这张好一点……

啊,偶前天去看了fellowship,昨天看了双塔,一会去看国王归来——偶跟自己发誓不去看配音版的(实在在e心了),但,这次的实在太便宜了,偶忍不住……

应景的,新Leggy图一张,这个米贴过吧?

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发表于 2004-5-9 18:20:28 | 只看该作者
好漂漂的莱……让我重温了结束的童话,太感激大人了!
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