导演爷爷很象很象奶奶||||||作者: daniel 时间: 2004-5-6 16:57
活活，看到了，screencaps here
http://www.elflady.com/legolasgreenleaf/orlando/troy/hbo/index.htm
还是有不少没见过的镜头，比如船上兄弟两情深意厚“Do you love me???~~”blah~blah~blah~绝对比对海伦真情告白好看~作者: 枝俏 时间: 2004-5-6 17:02
DAD DAD
give me a kiss作者: bellelai 时间: 2004-5-6 17:06
现在一听“兄弟情深”就感到气血上涌啊～
Dark Horizons has posted an interview with Eric Bana and he has this to say about Orlando: "Orlando I love to death, and we've worked together before and when he was cast as my younger brother, it was just a great feel and I hope that shows in the film." 作者: Joe 时间: 2004-5-6 17:10
“兄弟情深”=》“情人的爱”|||||||||||发散思维，发散思维
这个主题曲有没有说是谁唱的？作者: daniel 时间: 2004-5-6 17:15
这么多素材了，写文的筒子们可要加油了，汗~~~作者: Joe 时间: 2004-5-6 17:18
刚刚听了不知名某男人的深情演唱，小受刺激，忒激昂了||
写文的要努力，兄弟配前途无量作者: bellelai 时间: 2004-5-6 17:20
sung by Josh Groban and Tanja Tzarovska
嘿嘿，感觉BANA哥哥很坦率呢……不错不错 作者: Joe 时间: 2004-5-6 17:31
以下是引用bellelai在2004-5-6 17:20:10的发言：
sung by Josh Groban and Tanja Tzarovska
嘿嘿，感觉BANA哥哥很坦率呢……不错不错
是两个人唱的啊？没听出来真丢淫||
这个是JOSH另一个没找着
感觉BANA对开花从BHD那时可能就有FEELING 了，到了兄弟情深就更加喜欢了。谁让开花那么招人稀罕捏作者: daniel 时间: 2004-5-6 17:31
mp3听了N遍，果然热血沸腾，愁肠百转，国家，英雄，爱情。。都在这电影里灰飞湮灭了
bana哥哥坦率，开花弟弟也直爽啊，嘿嘿，“i feel like he is a brother,he centainly ripped me like a big brother”偶记得开花这话呢作者: daniel 时间: 2004-5-6 17:43
挖哈哈~他们两啥时有感觉偶不知，8过偶看BHD时就对他两有感觉了~光抢饭那场戏就看了N 遍啊，听说他们合作Troy还是演兄弟时，偶的感觉更是达到顶点~~~~so~let' wait ,wait for this movie，看他们兄弟两的好戏，我汗~又开始BT 了
那首歌我是也听到一个男声，不过难道另一个是伴唱~作者: Joe 时间: 2004-5-6 17:53
那时侯BANA的名号也曾一度是“抢饭大哥”，SO亲切啊~~~
抢饭的段子SO经典啊，明显去欺负新兵蛋子，外加搭讪，可惜让JASON给破坏了>_<
这回在TROY是过足了瘾了，连“鹅稀罕尼”都能说了||||作者: daniel 时间: 2004-5-6 18:13
总算看到篇正面的观后感，在chud.com
Saw it this morning.
It's very, very good - not brilliant or awe-inspiring but well and truly satisfying: a crowd-pleaser with intelligence and soul.
As one of these savages who's never read The Iliad (not a requirement in Australian schools and one of those things I just never got around to later in life - believe me, I'll be reading it now), I can only take the word of other people when they say screenwriter David Benioff has played sort of fast and loose with the source material. Regardless, he's come up with a really strong foundation for the film with his screenplay.
The characters aren't especially complex but that doesn't mean they're one-dimensional - they're straightforward and their actions and reactions have a real resonance. Each character is representative of something and each perfectly fulfils their role in the overall scheme of things. There's a balance to how the Greeks and Trojans act and react - how the actions of one force motivates a response from the other - and we come away with a genuine understanding of why Achilles, Hector, Paris, Agamemnon, Menelaus, Helen and the others do what they do.
In short: we can identify with these characters, and their actions make sense.
Petersen is a solid action director - he may not have the visual panache of someone like Ridley Scott but the scenes of conflict are vivid, exciting and coherent (a welcome change from action sequences botched by frenized cinematography and over-the-top editing). And while you never really feel swept away by Troy, it is a truly engrossing story - the almost three-hour running time never drags or dawdles.
Pitt's taken a few hits for his work as Achilles but I thought he was great - he carries himself with a cold arrogance that makes him a formidable adversary to anyone who crosses him (he conveys it very well, especially around the eyes), and it's all the more moving when he shows flashes of humanity and decency as the movie progresses. The generic 'epic movie' accent comes and goes but it's no great harm.
Bana suffers the odd moment of accent malfunction as well but he's excellent as Hector, who'll kick as much ass as necessary but who'd really just like to settle down with his wife and baby son. Nobility can be a drag to portray but Bana never makes Hector a one-note goody-goody - he'll fight for Troy until he draws his last breath but he also recognises the futility of warfare.
I feared Bloom would be the weak link but he's very effective as Paris, who's inability to keep it in his pants kickstarts the whole war. The cliche of 'a lover, not a fighter' sums up Paris and Bloom does a great job of displaying the guilt and shame he feels at his inability to live up to the examples set by his father Priam (the superb Peter O'Toole) and his brother Hector, as well as the love he feels for Helen. Bloom hasn't shown the greatest amount of range so far but what he does have in his set of skills is ideally suited to this role. You never hate Paris; you want him to rise above his faults.对开花的评价还不错呢，我觉得影评这东西主观性很强，只可做借鉴，但最后下判断的还是自己，这就是为什么在看了不少负面影评之后，我还能对Troy充满希望的原因。。
As for supporting roles: Brian Cox chews the scenery magnificently, Sean Bean does some really impressive low-key work as the pragmatic but essentially decent Odysseus and Rose Byrne (an actress I'd never really cared for in her Australian work) is terrific as Brisesis, who captures Achilles' heart. (The fact that she's as fucking hot as the fucking sun doesn't hurt either.) These actors stand out but I couldn't find a dud performance in the ensemble. (Okay, the pretty boy playing Achilles' cousin was a bit insipid but he got the job done, I guess.)
I dug the hell out of Troy - in contrast to Van Helsing, it's mainstream, broad-stroke filmmaking that doesn't pander, patronise or insult anyone's intelligence
