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作者: mithriel    时间: 2007-7-6 19:45
标题: In Celebration观感和评论(Fans版)
KA-BLOOM上看过演出的大姐已经写出她们的观感了:
http://www.ka-bloom.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=16246&pid=538998&st=96&#entry538998

如大家所愿,她们觉得开花和其他演员都演得非常好!


以下这篇偶觉得写得比较详细。
她说开花有几段很精彩的演出,还有几次哭戏(偶是做梦都想看啊),他的表情令人心碎难忘,十分入戏……这位大姐回到旅馆后回忆着也忍不住哭了……

I couldn't have written anything coherent last night, and I may not be able to now!
The acting was excellent all around, and I thought Orlando did very well (well, excellent-ly!). Tim Healy's accent was at times difficult for me to understand (yes, very 'Geordie', which I have heard many times before) - but the 3 brothers, remember, have been away from home on their own for a number of years, so the heavy colloquialism won't necessarily be there.
昨晚我不能写任何连贯的话,现在终于可以了吧~
表演真是棒极了,我觉得Orlando表现得非常好(极其出色)。 Tim Healy的口音有时对我来说难以听懂。但毕竟这三兄弟背井离乡已经很久了,所以浓重的口音不是非常有必要表现的。
It was amazing to see the expressions on his face in reaction to what was being said by the others, particularly when they were all taking, or even arguing. Since this isn't spoiler-free, the one look that amazed me was when Andrew mentioned Jamie for the first time: It was as if a door to a vault had been shut in front of Stephen's face. His eyes went 'dead', and no facial expression whatsoever.
当其他人在对话,尤其是他们在交谈或者争论的时候,看着他脸上的表情反应真是妙极了。这里不能随便剧透,偶就提一下,最令我吃惊的就是Andrew第一次提到Jamie的时候:Stephen的表情就好像,一扇通往天顶的门在他面前猛地关闭了一样。他的眼神像“死了”一样,没有一点面部的表情……

His classical training showed. His projection was very good without being overly loud (Tim Healy was projecting to the coffee shop across the street!  ), and there were few 'tics' or mannerisms to distract you. (Almost out of place, I suppose - but, yes, he was very good-looking. Nice 'stache, short sideburns. Envision a 1960s college professor with the slightly oversized cardigan sweater. I described this to Geri, and her response was, well, not postable.  )
他展现他的古典戏剧训练成果。他的表演是那种很出色却不喧闹的(Tim Healy的声音可以从这里传到街对面的咖啡馆!),也没有什么技巧或者特殊行为来转移你的注意。(几乎没有,我想。的确他很好看,漂亮的胡子,短短的边络,想象一个六十年代的大学教员穿着有点大的开襟羊毛衫的样子)。

But I have to admit, being a very emotional person myself (surrounded by British reserve, you see  ) that I was most moved by the emotions Orlando had to show when his breakdown came to the surface after going upstairs. Both Andrew and his father had gone into the bedroom and saw Stephen crying in his sleep (we could hear the weeping and, bless him, sniffing) - but a bit later, when Stephen comes downstairs, it is obvious that he has been crying. He looks very ill (pasty, and hollow eyes), and the weeping continues through the scene. His face was wet, and he continued crying, through the time when he is trying to explain what is wrong and Andrew keeps prodding him. Orlando had to stay in this 'character' (I wasn't watching the clock, but maybe 15 minutes?), wet cheeks and all, while others around him are reacting to one another - and still manage to come in with his few words on cue.
但我得承认,我是个非常容易动感情的人。我很是被Orlando上楼后的崩溃所展现出的情绪所感染。Andrew和父亲到他的房间时,他正在睡梦中哭泣(我们能听到他的哭声,天哪……抽泣的声音),后来,Stephen下楼了,很明显他哭过了。他看起来非常憔悴(苍白、双眼深陷),他的哭戏会持续整幕。他的脸被泪水沾湿了,他试着解释到底出了什么问题,而Andrew继续刺痛他,Orlando一直得保持着他角色的感觉(我没有看表,但大概有15分钟吧),他始终在哭泣,湿漉漉的脸庞和其他动作等……即使他周围的人在和其他人互动,还是能从他的只字片语中被到他情绪触动。

Kat and I talked about it a bit this morning, and she reminded me that when Stephen went up to bed initially, he laid down, and turned towards the wall away from the audience. This was the point where Orlando had to 'call up' what was needed for Stephen's emotions to come to the surface. I wasn't particularly emotional at the time, but when I got back to my hotel room, I called Geri and she can tell you I was crying on and off, and had trouble getting to sleep because I was so upset. I don't pretend to know anything about acting, but that emotion had to come from somewhere, and that was what upset me. I know that's 'acting', but I worry about the toll that could take on any actor. (And those days when he does a matinee as well?  ) But it is part of the job description, isn't it?
Kat和我在早上谈论时她提醒我,当Stephen上床的时候,他躺下,翻身向着墙壁,背对着观众。这是Orlando“唤起”他演绎Stephen的情感的一个高潮。当时我不是太感动,但当我回到旅馆房间,我给Geri打了电话,我哭了,我是如此伤心以至于很难入睡。我不想装着懂什么演技不演技的,但情绪莫名地就来了,这就是让我心烦意乱的原因。我明明知道那是“表演”,但我为这种任何演员都需要付出的代价感到担心。但这是他职业要求的一部分,不是吗?

But then I'd probably struggle to distinguish Irish/Geordie from the Northern accent they were doing - whereas I know Orlando's Kent accent only too well!

I would never say that I can distinguish all of the regional British accents (but I can nearly always tell where an American is from!) - but I do know the difference between Orlando's received pronunciation used in American interviews and the majority of his films, vs. the Kent accent that is more prounounced in interviews for British TV and (particularly) radio. And I didn't hear any Kentish at all last night. But then I deferred to Jackie, who said that, as a Northern lass, she thought he did an excellent job. But I suppose there's always room for refinement, for all of them.

'Technical' notes:
The break was 20 minutes; curtain was about 5 minutes late, and we were exiting the theatre around 10:00pm.
Except for a short while when Stephen and his father went off to the pub while Andrew and Colin arrived, he was 'onstage' for nearly the entire play. He may have thrown out only a word or two or an 'aye' here and there, but he was there and part of everything that went on.
The theatre is quite small (at least by standards that I've seen in Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York). I think there are many good seats (we were in the 7th row, to the left of center, which afforded a wonderful overall view). Saturday we will be in the 4th row on the right, so it will be interesting to see the difference. He spends a good amount of time on each side, with the couch (where most of 'that scene' takes place) is to the right of center stage.
The programs are £3 each (and Orlando apparently hasn't had the time for a new head shot - it's the one from Guildhall!); there are also the free 'flyer' cards at the ticket counter. All large bags or backpacks are inspected (and I imagine not just for cameras or recording equipment).
They are very vigilent about watching for cameras. Don't even try it, not even with a camera phone. And for the love of all that's holy, TURN OFF YOUR MOBILE/CELL. Someone behind us didn't and MAN, that was irritating. As we got closer to curtain, they were asking people to get off the phone (geez, can't you give it a rest for a couple of hours??) and turn it off.
I am very anxious to see it again, without my nerves (for him) in the way. All in all, he has a lot to be proud of, as do we.


另外两篇
I just had a call from Jan, which lasted about half an hour. I'll try to recall all the things she said (in no particular order or level of importance), and anything I forget to say she can fill in when she's able.
Orlando, and indeed all the cast, was wonderful. He was focused and relaxed and did his job well.
It was a very emotional play (especially for those who are touched by its content and meaning), and she described the set as to include the upstairs room where Orlando's character retires to bed (while the other men remain downstairs). The audience could see him as he left the others, went up the stairs and got into bed (where he began to weep as he slept).
Orlando looked great, wearing business clothes and brown loafers, tie, jacket and raincoat when he arrived. During the play, he took off some layers down to the shirt and tie. His hair seemed a bit shorter, and was curly. Reminded her of when he was much younger. Mustache was fuller than she expected or remembered him having in the past. She described his character's look as "ill" when he came downstairs in his bathrobe, after waking from his distressing sleep. White, clammy, and the way most people look when they've been emotionally upset. Very effective look.
Though he had relatively little dialogue in comparison to the rest of the cast, she felt that he responded to much of what was going on by a subtle change in his facial expressions. When something of meaning to his character was said, he was visually affected by it.
She said the place was really packed, that everyone behaved themselves and was respectful of theatre etiquette.
He looked GREAT.
There were a large number of young girls in the audience.
She described him sitting on a short stool at times (knees and elbows!), with a rounded back.
Professional autograph seekers were sent away disappointed from the Stage Door, as there were told he wouldn't be signing anything but play-related items.
She's dead tired, because one has to walk a LOT in London to get anywhere, and even at midnight it was noisy and bustling on the street.
He did just beautifully!
That's all for now. If I remember anything else, I'll be back.
ETA: Jackie reported that Orlando did a fine Yorkshire accent, and she should know.

I attended the play this evening. I was lucky enough to have tickets in the third row. Orlando did a wonderful job!
He is the first actor out on stage. He did have quite a few lines. I think he was a bit nervous in the first few minutes but seemed fine after that.
The first part of the play is light hearted while the second part is much more intense. There is one part when the whole cast breaks into song, you have to listen closely to hear him singing.
Orlando played every emotion very well. The audience seemed to enjoy themselves, and the cast came out twice to rounds of applause after the show. Well done!
It was difficult to try to obtain an autograph after the show. He wasn't out for long, but was very humble and kind to the people who did manage to be in front and thanked everyone for coming out and hoped we enjoyed the play.
This is my first time in London (I traveled from Los Angeles), I have to say well worth it. I wish Orlando all the best, I'm sure the play will be a huge success.

作者: vic    时间: 2007-7-7 01:24
em21 ..極度希望開花能過來香港表現...那我可以抓幾個喜歡看戲劇的銀陪我...em22 ...是時候去發夢了...em31


希望那些評論家能客觀去評價開花...最近我很怕+討厭這些人..em19
作者: LG2004    时间: 2007-7-7 04:51
呵呵,我从昨天就开始对表,伦敦时间19:30分起同时刷OL和Ka-bloom。等啊等啊等睡着了。今天早上一爬起来就刷Fan Review。我自己第一天工作都没有这么担心过。。。

如今还是担心那个Yorkshire口音,据说是不算完美,有几处走调。要知道那些剧评人可是一群狼,为了显示其水平,对开花这种成年的好莱坞明星(相对于丹尼尔),那绝对是会拿着放大镜(歌剧眼镜)专门去挑他的刺儿的。哪怕有一点点小毛病,让他们逮住了就别想落着好。还有两个星期正式上戏,一定要继续加油啊!

说实在的,他起点太高了。前几天看某部电影的时候,和别人说起某某某演得挺不错。后来一想虽然年纪差不多,仔细挑刺的话,他演得和咱家开花不能比。只不过对别的演员,脸长得还成,演得还算顺畅,观众就够满意的了。对阿花,观众的要求(期望值)就是要高一些,因为一举一动,甚至每个表情,都被关注太多了呀。
作者: LG2004    时间: 2007-7-7 05:16
还有那位洋姐妹想哭是因为她想到接下来的10个星期内开花同学天天都得这样伤心欲绝地真哭,有时每天两场,每场得哭足15分钟。。。一直哭到9月15号。众目睽睽之下,这可不是能用洋葱或者眼药水解决的问题。。。

不怕死地小声说:照这种哭法,为了不演完变成“林妹妹”,或者金鱼眼儿核桃眼儿,开花你哭不出来的时候,还是。。。呃。。。用洋葱吧。。。
作者: 独孤小嘉    时间: 2007-7-7 12:13
又见口音问题
那些人吃饱了没事做啦,一个口音就这么重要?反正让我听是听不出来有什么差别的
不知道这些会不会有视频出来啊
开花居然真的准备场场真哭?对自己的要求高到有点别人发指的地步了!
作者: 薄荷味冰激凌    时间: 2007-7-7 15:27
每天都要培养哭戏的感情,
心情岂不是很郁闷....em16
作者: 千古咏城    时间: 2007-7-7 21:06
那些人真是幸福……能看到开花演的舞台剧em22 咱们的命真苦~~~~
作者: 兰兰汀    时间: 2007-7-8 09:27
开花阿开花....可怜的眼睛这两个月可得受罪了...心疼~~~现场哭..神呐
想象不出来,开花整日以泪洗面的样子.......
作者: mithriel    时间: 2007-7-8 20:15
原帖由 兰兰汀 于 2007-7-8 09:45 发表
开花整日以泪洗面的样子.......


这句话用的,怎么有点喜感呢~偶笑也不是愁也不是~~

想起张柏芝拍张国立那部什么电影的时候天天要哭戏,哭到眼睛都发炎红肿~想起开花前不久买了个什么著名牌子的眼霜,难道是为这个准备XDDD

偶做梦都想看开花梨花带雨的样子(ETOWN那个镜头太短了不算= =),如今开花每天要哭上十几分钟,哭足两个多月,偶居然看不到……郁闷死了!!!
作者: 月月    时间: 2007-7-8 21:24
谢谢小m,国外大姐跟进速度好快!
偶的心情很类似LG,头天晚上就开始睡不踏实,一夜也不知是好梦还是噩梦: P
记者场推迟一周可能是好事,有助于开花进一步进入角色,放松状态。
目前粉丝的评价全部偏好(西西,啥是粉丝!),8晓得媒体筒子会不会放过开花,泡茶等待em17
作者: mithriel    时间: 2007-7-9 17:19
标题: 有粉丝谈到在场内遇到戏剧制作人和他们对开花的看法呢
In the interval I was talking to the couple sitting behind me - actually I got chatting to the lady in the queue for the loo, when she asked me if I'd have seen the play if Orlando wasn't in it - and it turns out that they were theatre producers, there to see Dearbhla Molloy because they're thinking about her for a role in a play they're putting on outside the west end. They said Orlando was a good actor - and they were not fans, not there to see him - the guy had never even heard of him. He actually started to say 'actually he'd be good as [character in play they're putting on]' and she had to tell him 'No, we can't cast him' . The lady commented that it was lovely to see so many young women in the theatre - just goes to show what having someone like Orlando in the cast can do for a play.

[ETA: the play they are putting on is called 'Doubt' by John Patrick Shanley, which recently won a Tony award and is being made into a film starring Philip Seymour Hoffman and Meryl Streep]

作者: LEON    时间: 2007-7-9 19:50
哭戏啊~~
不敢看啊~看了心疼的!
作者: 千古咏城    时间: 2007-7-10 10:06
这个剧要是出DVD的话我一定要买!!!em19
作者: 斯图亚特    时间: 2007-7-10 10:46
开花啊 em21 ...实在哭不出来em22就用洋葱吧!em15

(就是不知道会不会产生免疫力...em03 )


真希望那天一觉醒来看见开花在哭...em13
作者: ALINA    时间: 2007-7-10 13:39
好像很是呕心沥血呢,够虐的!

看过一些演员的访谈,他们经常会提到做演员是一件非常累心的工作,塑造一个好的角色,就意味着演员要掏空自己的所有来呈现给观众,会搞到身心疲惫,难以抽离,而戏剧这种直接面对观众的形式,对演员来说,更是艰巨的挑战。

一直都很喜欢英国演员的气质,想来跟他们所处的艺术氛围有关吧。
作者: 小小drizzly    时间: 2007-7-10 13:49
郁闷郁闷!!早知道就同爸爸去了!!猛捶案角,仰天长叹。。。
作者: LG2004    时间: 2007-7-10 15:09
谁有最差的那个Review的地址?听说在一个什么私人blog上。奇怪的是到目前为止独独这一个说非常不好的。倒让人想看一眼。
作者: LG2004    时间: 2007-7-11 02:48
好吧等我找了半天以后,她自己贴出来了。

http://www.elflady.com/orlandolove/showthread.php?t=10108&page=4

她说主要问题是,由于她两个朋友坐的位置离舞台较远(估计买的便宜票,20英镑的那种)开花的声音比其他的演员小,剧场里比较靠后的地方听不大清楚台词,而且也看不大清楚表情。(这不就等于什么都没有欣赏到。。。) Anyway,对于熟练的戏剧演员来说这样的情况确实是应该马上改进的,因为不是拍电影,有特写镜头,戏剧表演必须夸张一些让所有观众都看得见。还有Yorkshire口音问题(T_T),有一些滑。她说其他的演员没有滑音,但有些观众听出其他人也有滑,爱尔兰口音的都有露出来。可能她没有太注意其他的演员。

我觉得好笑的是,开花刚从戏剧学校出来的时候去拍电影,结果被人说“舞台腔太重,又不是在演舞台剧“;现在好不容易适应了大荧幕的拍摄方式,回去演舞台剧,结果被人说“表情太不明显,又不是在拍电影”。。。简直是“猪八戒照镜子——里外不是人”啦。

不过专业的剧评人会坐得比较近的。有些大姐买的45英镑的票,近得都能看到开花的眼泪滴在地上(实际上从A排到F排的反映都相当好),那感想就跟这位完全不一样(所以说多半还是便宜票的问题。。。便宜无好货。。。)

因为郁闷所以一边打字一边碎碎念中。。。开花你一定要争气啊。

[ 本帖最后由 LG2004 于 2007-7-11 04:06 编辑 ]
作者: mithriel    时间: 2007-7-11 09:23
原帖由 LG2004 于 2007-7-11 03:06 发表
近得都能看到开花的眼泪滴在地上

这种美景偶居然无法看到……天理啊…………暴走~~
作者: 水月    时间: 2007-7-11 11:03
她应该没贴出来,只是到这个帖子里解释一下她原帖的内容吧?
作者: LG2004    时间: 2007-7-11 11:16
嗯。是大概的复述,语气也缓和一些。原帖据说相当闹心,把OL上一干人等搞的多郁卒,幸好后来锁掉了。可以从那一帖前面的几个帖子看出她都说了些什么。
就她这一个说完全不行的。现在Ka-Bloom,OL, OBFile上都有剧评,她就占1/25左右吧。不过破坏力真是惊人,本来大家都放下的心,被她这一弄又都揪起来了。
作者: mithriel    时间: 2007-7-11 13:29
声音问题对于戏剧演员来说的确非常重要啊~开花这方面确实要改进一点!
只是我觉得,既然那个人什么都没看到听到(相对而言),她又凭什么说完全不行呢?
有看过的人(坐得较靠前的)反而说演开花哥哥的那个演员说话声音太响太吵了= =果然众口难调啊~~
作者: LG2004    时间: 2007-7-11 14:05
啊,那个是说Stephen的爸爸,煤矿工人,声音是要大一些。不过Jan她们不是说他喊得对街都能听到么-_-|||
再听人提起口音问题我就要抽了。就算是中国的方言,一时半会儿也很难练到100%一样吧。不信去找个北京人教他说上海话T_T。开花因为宣传海盗的关系,排练时间本来就少。这个剧宣传的担子也压在他身上,演完还不能立刻回家,先是要给上百fans签名,然后还要去social,这活动那活动。累得死人啊。大概他想想这个每天就能哭出来了。。。
作者: 水月    时间: 2007-7-11 14:14
我觉得有批评之声不是坏事,就算天才也不可能第一次就完美无缺,只是那个LJ的主人写的太“激烈”,完全就是指责+不屑。说实话,连我这个非粉丝都觉得有些用词太过分了,别说真正的粉丝了。我很疑惑这个人竟然还自称是资深粉丝。
作者: 浊酒    时间: 2007-7-11 18:08
乱入一下:俺以往看戏的经验:便宜票绝不要买~~
表情嘛,离远了,自备望远镜吧,不是天生千里眼,坐在不好的位置,那就别要求太多~~一


至于声音和动作,这倒真应该注意一下~~
这个剧场不知有多大,如果像北京人艺那种大小的剧场,演员的声音应该做到观众从前排到最后都可听清~

PS:以前咱们这边也出现过一些自称"粉丝"的家伙,批起某人来比N多号称反感他的人还损~~~ em15 说好了叫"恨铁不成钢",说不好了:一是有可能在装(粉丝有啥好装的,不能理解);二是多少有些自认水准高~~(原谅俺心理阴暗一把~~)

其实批评不是不可以,但语气和用词,有时不用那么刻薄与高高在上~~河蟹社会嘛~~爆,国外可能最近没"河蟹"口号,天热, 上火的多em21

[ 本帖最后由 浊酒 于 2007-7-11 18:32 编辑 ]
作者: mithriel    时间: 2007-7-11 19:53
诶,偶觉得这种人还是可以忍受的啦……
前面在Click!Orlando有个去看戏的姐妹说,她那场遇到一个花粉带了一堆同学来看,那群同学都是粗俗的美国小孩,根本不懂什么舞台剧,什么约克郡的口音更是听都听不懂,在第一幕就开始睡觉,甚至开花演到哭戏的时候他们在下面笑(爆青筋)
然后那个姐妹去后门等签名的时候,又要拍照又要追开花,名没签到;而那个女生带着同学占了很大地方,她让那些同学来拍照,自己拿到了签名,那群同学还在后面嘀嘀咕咕地讨论这出戏不知道在演些什么。所幸令那个姐妹安慰的是,虽然开花没来得及给她签名,还是很真挚地对她“谢谢你来看戏”,她马上觉得心里好舒服~~
作者: LG2004    时间: 2007-7-12 10:28
http://westendwhingers.wordpress ... with-orlando-bloom/

这是两个男生的Review。他们只看了半场,对剧情不是很感兴趣,中场的时候就走掉了。
其实看过的人都说后半场比前半场好得多。因为他们不上OL的缘故(^O^),后面没看真是太可惜了。
他们说演员的表演没有什么大的问题。就是这出1969年的戏剧现在重排从内容上显得太过时。
而且前半场OB台词很少,显得有些无措(其实这是为后半场作铺垫,后半部分矛盾才会激化。由于他们完全没看后半场,所以这可不能怪别人)

不过他们说得最好玩的一句公道话就是,虽然开花 “用过时的开襟毛衣故意把自己打扮得老土一些,而且苍白的脸上还留起了小胡子,还是让人奇怪舞台上这一家子(强调没有对其他演员的不敬)基因起了什么突变才能生出这么一个儿子!” 因为开花明显比其他人漂亮太多了。
作者: 独孤小嘉    时间: 2007-7-12 21:58
唉,没机会去亲眼看到这出戏啊

说到那些所谓的热情的有水平的FANS,大概稍微有点头脑的艺人看了他们也都害怕,这种人最喜欢做出一副高深状,骂喜欢其它艺人的FANS幼稚无知,喜欢同一人的吧水平实在太低给自己提鞋都不够必须要自己时不时地居高临下地教导一番,而那位能够荣幸得到自己青睐的艺人吗自然是高标准严要求恨铁不成钢啦
只是基本上没看就给人家下定义,水平也太高了些,有点脑子的人看了都好笑
作者: 千古咏城    时间: 2007-7-14 12:50
要我去看的话肯定买张贵的票做前面!那些去看了说不好的人真是心灵丑陋啊,有的看就不错了,我还跟难民似的想看都没地方看呢。7……
作者: 薄荷味冰激凌    时间: 2007-7-14 20:03
这叫身在福中不知福啊~~
想我只能在梦里看了....em16
作者: LG2004    时间: 2007-7-16 02:46
www.Ka-Bloom.org上又出了两篇review,这次是第一天晚上去看过了的两位大姐重新看时的感想。
需要说明的是这出舞台剧星期一才正式上演。到今天为止的场次都是把上演当作排练,已有的review严格地说都只是preview。
她们说开花的表演有了很大改进,口音只滑了一处,Stephen的形象已经顺利地确立起来了。整个团队配合地更好,剧情更显紧凑,入物之间的关系也更为可信。

坛子里懂英文的姐妹们都可以去Ka-Bloom或者www.elflady.com看剧评。仅浏览的话这两个论坛不需要任何注册。而且她们对开花的动向跟得非常紧。当然我们在这里也可以大概地翻译一些。

这出剧对Orlando来讲比拍一部电影都重要,是他获得严肃的评论家认可的大好机会。事实上我一点都不觉得他在休息调整,每天要保质保量地演上这么一两场,完了还要面对媒体和几百fans(最近增加到500人左右),不轻松啊。
作者: 小缈    时间: 2007-7-16 17:07
郁..本来今年7月可以去英国参加一个夏令营的..而且7月18号还让我们在伦敦自己玩一天..我本来打算去看的...后来学校临时又取消了夏令营..!!恨!!
作者: maggie-l    时间: 2007-7-20 23:44
虽然开花 “用过时的开襟毛衣故意把自己打扮得老土一些,而且苍白的脸上还留起了小胡子,还是让人奇怪舞台上这一家子(强调没有对其他演员的不敬)基因起了什么突变才能生出这么一个儿子!” 因为开花明显比其他人漂亮太多了。

我汗……这个评价真是
作者: view    时间: 2007-7-21 13:29
看不到啊....泪```


花花哭叻...想看 想看 好想看...

如果有出碟 死都要買!
作者: 海豚展翅    时间: 2007-12-23 10:10
真的很难想象开花流泪的样子啊~~~~~~~~~真是郁闷~~我这辈子还有没有得看呢???沉思~~~




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